Islamic Views on the Shape of the Earth: Revision history

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curprev 20:4620:46, 16 April 2024‎ CPO675 talk contribs‎ 131,730 bytes +1,823‎ →‎Flat Earth in tafsirs: Added further academic references to back up statements that before the translation movement religious authorities/Muslims believed, based on the Quran, that the earth was flat. Tag: Visual edit [pending review]

curprev 20:0020:00, 15 April 2024‎ Exmuslimfrancais talk contribs‎ m 129,907 bytes +87‎ Added a source Tag: Visual edit [pending review]

curprev 09:1609:16, 3 April 2024‎ CPO675 talk contribs‎ 129,820 bytes +851‎ →‎Ibn Kathir (d. 1373): Added in verse showing Ibn Kathir was directly aware of astronomer's works when writing the tafsir - highlighting the connection between them and the influence they had on later tafsirs. Tag: Visual edit [checked by Asmith]

curprev 21:1621:16, 14 February 2024‎ CPO675 talk contribs‎ 128,969 bytes +808‎ →‎The spring where the sun sets: Added another important early tafsir (the earliest) on this verse confirming the literal setting (rising and) place of the sun in a hot muddy spring, which is of course only possible on a flat Earth. Tag: Visual edit [checked by Asmith]

curprev 23:4823:48, 9 February 2024‎ CPO675 talk contribs‎ m 128,161 bytes +366‎ →‎Flat Earth in the hadiths: Added in a link to the Science and the Seven Earths pages where relevant. And a small line highlighting (and linking to) the many verses Al-Jalalayn believed showed a clear flat earth - not only the one listed. Tag: Visual edit [checked by Asmith]

curprev 12:4112:41, 5 February 2024‎ CPO675 talk contribs‎ 127,795 bytes +945‎ →‎The spring where the sun sets: Have added in the point that I don't think has been made before - that alongside the many early tafsir writers listed as being flat-earthers, so mostly likely were all the major hadith collectors, who were themselves key scholars of early Islam. Tag: Visual edit

curprev 22:1722:17, 9 January 2024‎ CPO675 talk contribs‎ 126,850 bytes +1,930‎ →‎Greek astronomical knowledge: I have added in another section from an Islamic scholar on Greek astronomical knowledge being advanced upon and gaining traction with caliph sponsorship, highlighting one of Al-Ma'mun's accomplishments and patronaging, which can explain how later tafsir/commentators gained this knowledge. Tag: Visual edit [checked by Asmith]

curprev 18:5418:54, 2 January 2024‎ CPO675 talk contribs‎ m 124,920 bytes +568‎ →‎The spring where the sun sets: I've also added in an article from a scholar on this topic with a link to an excellent article discussing this issue. Tag: Visual edit

curprev 22:1422:14, 1 January 2024‎ CPO675 talk contribs‎ m 124,352 bytes +330‎ →‎The spring where the sun sets: have added a link to a much longer list of Islamic scholars/tafsirs on this verse showing how it was taken before round Earth views were spread. Tag: Visual edit

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curprev 09:5909:59, 23 September 2023‎ CPO675 talk contribs‎ m 124,728 bytes +643‎ →‎The Earth is flat, but only from a human perspective: Added in two more sentences adding to summarising the argument from a 'human perspective'. Corrected a typo. And added in links to other relevant wikiilsam pages, as well as one to the modern Flat Earth Society which lists these verses, along with many other religions verses as support for their theory - while this is more humorous than 'scholarship', I believe it is fitting in the 'See Also' section as it still drives the point. Tag: Visual edit [checked by Lightyears]

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curprev 11:4411:44, 17 July 2022‎ Lightyears talk contribs‎ 116,405 bytes +2,669‎ Dahaha used for flat earth in poem by Zayd b. 'Amr [automatically checked]

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curprev 15:2015:20, 15 June 2022‎ Lightyears talk contribs‎ 108,414 bytes +1,402‎ Context added for verses (almost all the direct verses are expressly in the context of the creation of the entire heavens and earth) [automatically checked]

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curprev 00:2600:26, 30 May 2022‎ Lightyears talk contribs‎ 104,305 bytes +73‎ To be very clear in the intro that the most common response to this topic is discussed (Ibn Taymiyyah / Ibn Hazm) [automatically checked]

curprev 22:0922:09, 23 May 2022‎ Lightyears talk contribs‎ 104,232 bytes −359‎ Reduced repetition, More concise lead [automatically checked]

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curprev 16:4216:42, 28 December 2020‎ Lightyears talk contribs‎ 99,696 bytes +131‎ The whirl ibn Abbas quote is in ibn Kathir's commentary for a different verse (36:40). His other quote is separate, for his commentary on 31:29. [automatically checked]

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curprev 01:5401:54, 2 December 2020‎ Lightyears talk contribs‎ 85,478 bytes +3‎ →‎Qur'an 88:20 - sutihat (spread out flat) [automatically checked]

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curprev 00:1800:18, 23 March 2017‎ Lightyears talk contribs‎ 51,894 bytes +252‎ →‎Earth is flat only from our perspective: Added point about mountains [automatically checked]
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